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Since commercial brushless motors became available, they have always been popular. Their high efficiency, low weight, and impressive power output over traditional brushed motors showed great potential within the RC community. As a result, their high demand was rivaled only by their price tags.
Back in 2002, in search of a more economical alternative to pricey motors and driven by a disease-like affliction to tinker, a small group of RCers discovered the potential of using the small brushless platter motor from a CD-ROM drive upon which the CD itself sits and spins. Modification after modification widened the power band of these little work horses, and after a short while hobbyists were gutting not only CD-ROM drives, but hard drives, DVD players, hard drives, kitchen appliances, power tools - anything with a brushless motor - to extract their guts and convert them to RC powerplants. While the term "CD-ROM motor" stuck, this term now applies to the wide range of limited and medium production brushless outrunner motors currently available to the RC community.
Since their emergence, a new hobby-within-a-hobby has been established and people are seeing more and more DIY brushless motors at fields, meets, and fly-ins. The affordability, availability of parts, and huge following has solidified the reputation of DIY motors in the RC community and has even driven down the cost of high-production "commercial" motors. With many pilots now having more motors than planes, the "CD-ROM revolution" has even sparked the manufacturing of low-cost electronic speed controllers.
Why not?
Aside from DIY motors being substantially less expensive, all mass-produced "commercial" brushless motors are designed to work with a wide range of planes, helis, boats, cars, etc. From a business or marketing perspective, that makes perfect sense. In this situation a company wants their product to be as versatile as possible. As a result, many pilots own several planes that may have very different flight characteristics but only a small number of motors, and thus swap motors around as they need.
But imagine for a moment that this wasn't the case... Imagine that you could have an ideal motor that was matched perfectly to not only your plane or heli, but also matched your flying style. It played nice with the capabilities of your battery pack and speed controller so you didn't have to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on more hardware, and could be optimized and tailored to match YOUR SPECIFIC PLANE instead of a range of planes.
It could be upgraded and repaired. Modified and rebuilt. All by you.
Now imagine that motor being inexpensive to the point that you could put one in every plane you own, or even build multiple motors for a single plane that you could swap out based on your flying mood.
If that doesn't convince you, how about the thrill of building a high-performance brushless outrunner with your own two hands and seeing it not only run, but fly your plane better than a motor several times the price?
Perhaps that's why one customer referred to our DIY kits as "crack cocaine"... ;)
For some, I suppose it could be. Our kits are tailored to certain skill levels -- the GBv™ kits being the easiest to assemble with minimal skills and ideal for learning the fundamentals of motor building, and the GBx™ kits intended for folks looking to build a more efficient, much more powerful motor. But as we tell everyone who asks this question, we have received countless emails from customers telling us how easy it was to build their first motor. In fact, one of those customers fessed up to the fact that his kit was actually assembled by his 10 year old grandson! And it runs perfectly!
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Well that depends. Some motors are considered "hot wound", which means they have very few winds and produce very high RPMs while drawing high currents). For those, heat is normal. Some of these "hot wound" motors generate so much heat that you can't even run them in static conditions (on your test bench or in any condition other than in flight where there isn't substantial air flow over the motor) or they can become damaged and even inoperable due to the excessive heat.
For most of us though, while our motors may get warm, they shouldn't get very hot. If this happens, it is most likely the result of an electrical short. This is almost always caused by winding your stator too tightly or too quickly, damaging the heavy poly-nylon (HPN) insulation that coats the copper wire. Unfortunately, the only sure-fire solution to a short is rewinding the stator. If your motor gets hot, do not run it for very long - the high temperatures can damage other parts of your motors (namely the neodymium magnets). For this reason we suggest testing for shorts with a multimeter prior to fully assembling or firing up the motor.
An alternative to rewinding the stator is a method known as blowing away a short which involves connecting one lead from a battery to the stator and another to the shorted coil for a very short time. This method is dangerous, though, and as a result we suggest rewinding the stator as opposed to attempting to blow away shorts.
This is most likely caused by a poor feedback signal from the motor to the speed controller. Check your wire connections. Another reason, although most folks are embarrassed to admit it, is an incorrectly installed magnet.
For example, if your magnet configuration consists of N-S-N-S-N-S but you goof up and glue one magnet in backwards (i.e., N-S-N-N-N-S) it’s definitely going to confuse your controller. While it may not be a noticeable issue at low RPM (although start-up may be jittery), at higher speeds a crystal clear feedback signal from the motor to the ESC is critical for smooth, efficient operation.
When winding your stator, consistency is of the utmost importance. Realistically, though, we all slip up on our turn count here and there. Lets say you were watching TV while winding and you think you may have ended up with something like 20 turns, 20 turns, and 21 turns on the first phase... is this going to cause a problem?
Well, consider this: the magnetic field created by the motor is (put on your thinking cap now) the current being drawn X the number of turns.
Magnetic Field Strength = (Current) X (# of Turns)
We call this "amp turns". If your current is, say, 5 amps, then let's do some math. Stator arm #1 has 20 turns, so...
- 5 (amps) X 20 (turns) = 100 amp turns for Arm #1, Phase #1.
- Same goes for the next arm that had 20 turns too. 100 amp turns for Arm #2, Phase #1.
Since you were paying more attention to the Victoria's Secret commercial than your motor on the last arm of the phase, you ended up with 21 turns (well, at least you think you did...). Well, how is this going to affect the motor? Do the math.
- 5 (amps) X 21 (turns) = 105 amp turns for Arm #3, Phase #1.
Yes, there's a difference here, but it's only 4.7% - we can typically consider this negligible. Not ideal, but not a show stopper either and usually not a reason to demand rewinding. So at 5 amps you probably won't even notice anything.
BUT let's say you were off by 7 turns... that comes out to 135 amp turns, which gives you a 26% difference when compared to the first and second arms. This will most definitely be noticeable.
As far as what difference % is the point at which you should start worrying, there's always room for argument there. A good rule of thumb is that if you think you miswound your stator, it doesn't take THAT long to rewind it - plus then you have one less thing to troubleshoot should you have any other problems.